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INFORMATION THAT MAY BE NEEDED BY THE INDIAN ARMED FORCES VETERANS HAS BEEN LOADED ITHIS WEB SITE COVERING ALLIED FACETS. THIS IS BEING BROUGHT TO YOU BY THE SIGNALS PARIVAR.                      
  
WE HAVE GREAT PLEASURE IN WELCOMING FELLOW VETERANS FROM ALL ARMS AND SERVICES INCL INDIAN NAVY AND INDIAN AIRFORCE, TO THIS SITE.

PLEASE SHARE SIMILAR INFORMATION THAT YOU HAVE WITH YOUR FELLOW VETERANS, KINDLY EMAIL THE SAME TO  mgr.sigs@gmail.com) FOR HOSTING HERE.

 परिवार **** FAMILY ISN'T ALWAYS BLOOD, ITS THE GROUP OF PEOPLE IN EACH OTHER's LIFE WHO WANT OTHERS IN THEIR's.  
   

     जय हिन्द     

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JAI HIND   

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FLASH - NEWS

      

This section incorporates latest News in Brief on important Issues
PLEASE MAKE IT A POINT TO PERUSE THE ENTIRE SITE AT LEAST ONCE A WEEK
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Sad demise - Lt Gen SG Mookerjee
                             pl scroll down to bereavement

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SUPREME COURT JUDGEMENT -

Woman employee of the Central Government can avail uninterrupted 730 days of Child Care Leave – Hon’ble Supreme Court decides in favour of Woman Government Employee whose CCL was restricted to 45 days

                                        CLICK FOR JUDGEMENT

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E-BOOK - ACCIDENTAL PRIME MINISTER 
                         (CLICK ABOVE TITLE TO READ THE BOOK)

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REUNION OF SODE 24-A WAS HELD AT MCTE MHOW, ON 9TH AND 10TH APRIL 2014. WHAT AN EXCELLENT SHOW AND HEARTWARMING HOSPITALITY. THE EVENT WAS WELL COVERED IN HT AND TOI INDORE EDITIONS.
                     CLICK TO READ MORE DETAILS

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UPDATE ON RANK PAY CASE - HEARING 31 MAR 2014
                                            PL SCROLL DOWN TO RANK PAY POST
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PLEASE SCROLL DOWN TO OROP SECTION FOR RAKSHA MANTRI'S LETTER ON THE SUBJECT DATED 5TH MAR 2014 AND TO DRAW YOUR OWN CONCLUSIONS.

OROP IS ONLY A DROP AS COMPARED TO NON FUNCTIONAL UPGRADATION - IF WE WANT SOMETHING, ASK FOR NFU FOR FAUJ  IT WILL LOOK AFTER THE MASS SCALE SUPERSESSION IN PROMOTION IN MILITARY DUE TO ITS TOP-NARROW PYRAMIDICAL HIERARCHY.
      SOON A DETAILED DISCUSSION ON THIS BLOG IS BEING INITIATED TO SPREAD THE AWARENESS ON NFU :-  http://sigs-family.blogspot.in/p/non-functional-upgradation-for-fauj.html   
     PLEASE PARTICIPATE WHOLE HEARTEDLY AND SEND YOUR VIEWS AND WRITE UPS TO BRIG NARINDER DHAND <nkd616@gmail.com> FOR INCL HERE.
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TIPS FOR VETERANS - PPF ACCTS 
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VETERAN'S E - LIBRARY

THERE ARE LARGE NUMBER OF DOCUMENTS ARTICLES AND E BOOKS AND PAMPHLETS WHICH ARE AVAILABLE IN THIS LIBRARY. AS OF DATE IT HAS OVER TWO THOUSAND PAGES AND ABOUT 6 Gb OF DATA SPACE. THE SUBJECT RANGES FROM USEFUL DOCUMENTS FOR VETERANS TO LIGHT READING AT LEISURE.

IT IS OUR ENDEAVOR TO ADD AS MUCH AS READING MATERIAL AS POSSIBLE WITH THE HELP OF OUR ESTEEMED MEMBERS OF THE SIGNALS PARIVAR (FAMILY) AND  VETERANS FROM ALL ARMS AND SERVICES.




TO GO TO THE DETAILED CONTENTS OF THE LIBRARY CLICK THE HEADING ABOVE. ONCE THE LIST OF THE DOCUMENTS OPENS SCROLL TO THE DESIRED ARTICLE AND CLICK TO OPEN THE SAME ON YOUR DESK TOP.

NOTE :- VETERANS ARE REQUESTED TO CONTRIBUTE SIMILAR ARTICLES TO THE LIBRARY.

LATEST ADDITION TO THE LIBRARY

TIPs FOR VETERANS

YOUR PPF ACCOUNTS - NOMINATIONS

IT IS OUR ENDEAVOUR TO PERIODICALLY PLACE HERE IMPORTANT SUBJECTS  FOR THE VETERANS NOT ONLY FOR THEIR INFORMATION BUT ALSO FOR THEIR IMMEDIATE ACTIONS.

      WE HAD EARLIER GIVEN TIPS ASSETS REGISTER AND NOW A TIP ON  PPF ACCTS PUBLISHED,  HAVING NOMINATIONS IN PPF ACCOUNTS  IS MORE THAN SPECIAL. DO UNDERSTAND THAT IN CASE YOU HAVE NOMINATED NO OF YOUR RELATIONS WITH PERCENTAGE SHARES FOR EACH.
     DO CHECK WITH YOUR BANK OR POST OFFICE TODAY WHETHER THEY HAVE RECORD OF NOMINATION ON PPF OR NOT.

Nomination in PPF 
     On the death of a subscriber the balance in the PPF account is paid on demand to his nominee or successor. However, the balance, if not withdrawn, continues to earn tax-free interest. No partial withdrawals are permitted. It is risky for the nominee to continue the account because the nominee cannot appoint a nominee.
    In the case of joint nominees, PPF rules allow allocating a percentage of benefits against each nominee. But the form does not provide a specific place to indicate the same and therefore, many fail to indicate the percentages.
    In that case, the nominees are treated as joint holders and have to apply together for the closure. Each nominee is required to identify himself to the satisfaction of the concerned officer. After completing all the formalities, a single cheque is issued in favour of all of them together. This cannot be encashed, unless all the nominees have a joint account. If no nomination is in force, the balance will be paid to the legal heirs on production of the succession certificate or probate. In India, it takes an enormous time, money, and energy to obtain this. 
    To mitigate hardships, a balance up to Rs 1 lakh only may be paid to legal heirs on applying in Form-G along with a letter of indemnity, an affidavit, a letter of disclaimer on affidavit and a death certificate pending succession proceeding sin the court which may take years even if undisputed/unchallenged.
THE FORMS REQUIRED FOR NOMINATION ARE AVAILABLE IN VETERANS LIBRARY IN THIS SITE  WHICH MAY BE DOWNLOADED BY CLICKING HERE.

BRIG NARINDER DHAND (VETERAN)



BEREAVEMENT - SIGNALS

                        RAM GIO RAVAN GIO JA KE BAHU PARIVAR
KAHU NANAK THIR KUCHH NAHIN SUPNE SA SANSAR
 CHINTA TAA KEE KEEJIE JO ANHONI HOE
  YEH MARG SANSAR KO NANAK THIR NAHIN KOE

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JOURNEY TO HEAVENLY  ABODE
घल्ले आए नानका , सद्दे उठ जाए


राम गियो रावण गियो जा के  बहु परिवार, कहूं नानक  थिर कुछ नाहीं सुपने सा संसार
चिंता ता की कीजए जो अनहोनी होए, यह मार्ग संसार को नानक थिर नाहीं कोई


Regret to inform sad demise of IC 7017 W, Lt Gen SG Mookerjee, PVSM,AVSM,VSM (Retd), ex SO in C, at his residence at 0830 hrs on 17 Apr 14; 
NOK, Mrs Aroti Mookerjee(wife); Address . I Block, House No 1176, Chirrarajan Park, Kalakaji, new Delhi- Contact #011-26271949, mob # 09810046509, Cremation at Brar Square at 1700hrs on 17 Apr 14."


"HEARTFELT CONDOLENCES
"ALL MEMBERS OF THE SIGNALS-PARIVAAR 
OFFER THEIR SINCERE AND HEARTFELT CONDOLENCES TO THE MEMBERS OF THE BEREAVED FAMILY. MAY THE ALL MIGHTY GIVE THEM COURAGE TO BEAR THIS IRREPARABLE LOSS AND  REST HIS NOBLE SOUL IN ETERNAL PEACE IN HIS HEAVENLY ABODE"

CORPS DOMESTIC MATTERS

CORPS DOMESTIC MATTERS

   We have added this section recently to compile Corps Domestic matters, Current News and Notices for Signals  Veterans,  these are also linked to their detailed documents

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MCTE NEWS LETTER - "FLASH"
SIGNALS PARIVAR IS MUCH grateful to MCTE for the Monthly News Letters which is being made available for leisure reading by the Veterans and reviving old memories of OLD TIMES in  Alama Mater.. The current as well as previous issues of the News Letter can be accessed as under:-                                           
                              THE  APR -2014   ISSUE IS NOW AVAILABLE  -   CLICK


                                                 FOR  PREVIOUS ISSUES  -   CLICK
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REUNION SODE 24A - REUNION OF SODE 24 A AS SCHEDULED AT MCTE MHOW FROM 9TH TO 11TH APRIL 2014 WAS HELD, THE ALUMNI WERE UPDATED WITH THE FACILITIES WHICH HAVE BEEN UPGRADED IN MCTE OVER THE YEARS. IT HAD BEEN A MEMORABLE EVENT FOR THE VETERANS WHO FINISHED THEIR COURSE IN AUG 1972.

            FOR REUNION DETAILS PLEASE LOG ON TO http://.www.sode24.blogspot.in 

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DIRECTORY OF RETIRED SIGNAL OFFICERS - 2014


NOTE - IN CASE OF ANY AMENDMENTS REQUIRED  PLEASE WRITE TO DIR  SIGS ADM, DTE GEN OF SIGS, IHQ of MOD (ARMY), SENA BHAWAN,  DHQ PO,  NEW DELHI 110001

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YOUR NAME IN ELECTORAL ROLLS

DEAR VETERANS
            EVEN THOUGH THIS BLOG/WEBSITE  IS TOTALLY APOLITICAL, YET, WE TAKE THIS LIBERTY OF INFORMING ALL OUR VETERANS AND  MEMBERS OF THEIR FAMILIES THAT IT WILL BE A GOOD IDEA TO CHECK IF YOUR NAME APPEARS IN THE ELECTORAL ROLLS OF YOUR DISTRICT/STATE FOR THE FORTHCOMING PARLIAMENTARY ELECTIONS BEFORE VENTURING OUT FOR POLLING. THE DETAILED PROCEDURE IS EXPLAINED BELOW:-

1.    GO TO THE FOLLOWING WEB PAGE BY MODIFYING THE URL
         FOR PUNJAB -   http://ceopunjab.nic.in/English/Printidcard.aspx
         FOR UP  -           http://ceouttarpradesh.nic.in/
         FOR RAJASTHAN - http://ceorajasthan.nic.in/index.aspx
         FOR J&K             http://ceojk.nic.in/
         FOR MP               http://ceomadhyapradesh.nic.in/
       
2.      FOR YOUR STATE - http://ceoxxxxxxx.nic.in  (Replace xxx by your state name).   e.g               http://ceotamilnadu.nic.in/  (FOR TAMIL NADU)

3.    AFTER THE PAGE OPENS LOOK FOR SEARCH NAMES WITH EPIC NUMBERS. CLICK THERE THE SEARCH ENGINE WILL OPEN.
  NOTE - EPIC NUMBER IS THE NUMBER PRINTED ON YOUR VOTER I CARD WHICH IS LETTERS CUM FIGURES.

4.  FOLLOW INSTRUCTIONS ON THE PAGE AND YOU WILL BE ABLE TO SEE YOUR VOTING SLIP THERE AGAINST YOUR NAME.

Brig NK Dhand (Veteran)

ONE RANK ONE PENSION

LATEST ON OROP

1.   A valid Notification on OROP before 5th Mar 2014 could have been a most welcome step by the Govt. The sanction of the VOA by parliament is only for expenditure and not for any scheme which needs to be notified by the concerned ministries.

2.    The Model Code of Conduct is operative now however there are divergent views expressed by many Veterans. One should reach one's own conclusion after reading the following scanned copies of the letter by the Raksha Mantri as also the minutes of the conference held by him on 26th Feb 2014. You can keep moving the pages up in the window with your mouse clicked in the window and moved or enlarge this document by clicking the EXPAND icon on bottom right of this facsimile. 


Shri Rajeev Chandershekhar has written another letter on 8 Mar to Raksha
Mantri seeking clarifications with regards to MOD orders to CGDA for
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Defence pensioners to get OROP benefits from April 1
PTI       http://epaper.mailtoday.in/epaperhome.aspx?issue=2822014

DEFENCE Ministry on Thursday issued orders for implementing the ‘ One Rank One Pension’ ( OROP) decision of the government from April 1 and assured the Services that it will provide all necessary funds for it. Defence Minister A. K. Antony has assured the Services that the Government was fully committed to implement the OROP policy and required funds will be made available to ensure its implementation, he said.

Chairing a meeting of the top brass of the Services and senior officials, Antony said the finance minister had clarified that the figure of ` 500 crores made available to implement the scheme was only indicative. The meeting was convened by Antony to discuss the modalities for implementation of OROP. Minister of State for Defence Jitendra Singh, Defence Secretary R. K. Mathur, Secretary Ex- Servicemen’s Welfare Sangita Gairola, Secretary Defence Finance Arunava Dutt, the three Service Vice Chiefs and AG from the Services Headquarters also attended the meeting.

It was noted that OROP implies that uniform pension be paid to the Armed Forces personnel retiring in the same rank with the same length of service irrespective of their date of retirement, the ministry said.

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LET US SEE WHAT FINALLY COMES OUT--- THE PRINCIPLE

 OROP = EQUAL PENSION FOR SAME RANK AND NUMBER OF YEARS OF SERVICE IRRESPECTIVE OF THE DATE OF RETIREMENT

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MERGER OF DA WITH PAY AND PENSION

Merger of DA with Pay and Interim Relief

Govt yet to issue Statement – Confederation of Central Government Employees and Workers Karnataka Unit reports

Merger of DA with Pay, granting interim relief and enhancing superannuation age are definitely being actively considered by the Govt. Hindu Business line, Business standard, Economic times and Vijaya Karnataka News papers has published it was discussed in the union Cabinet meeting & same has been approved. As per news paper reports the decisions taken are to refer to 7th CPC regarding DA merger & IR. If these reports are true then we have to wait for next week for notification orders.

The Government has not issued any statement so far on this issue. Finance Minister Shri P Chidambaram will visit Australia as per the schedule he will attend the G20 meeting on February 22 and 23, followed by investor conferences on February 24 and 25. and if the above reports are not correct then it is most likely that cabinet will take any decision only after his return from abroad. So good news may be expected in the next weekend.

Source : Confederation of Central Government Employees and Workers, Karnataka State

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PENSION ISSUES - INDIAN ARMED FORCES

ALL IMPORTANT DEVELOPMENTS ON THE PENSION CASES AND OTHER RELATED ISSUES.
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MIN GUARANTEED PENSION  
payable wef 01/01/2006
LATEST ON THE ISSUE
The matter is therefore sub-judice In Supreme Court.
Is our Govt   Anti- Pensioners’ Welfare ?
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Minimum Guaranteed Pension will be payable wef 01/01/2006
     The Govt filed a review petition with the SC which was  rejected on 12 Nov 2013, Hence all Central Govt pre 2001 pensioners will get enhanced pension from 1-1-2006. This issue is again Sub-Judice in the court as Govt has resorted to appeal/review.
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1.  DETAILED PENSION TABLES - 
 YOU MAY  CLICK HERE TO ACCESS.

2. ENDORSEMENT OF DOB OF SPOUSE IN PPO. HOPE VETERANS HAVE COMPLETED THIS ACTION IN GETTING THE DATE OF BIRTH OF THEIR SPOUSES MENTIONED/ENDORSED IN THEIR PPOs. IF NOT, DO IT AT-ONCE. CHECK THE DETAILS IN VETERANS LIBRARY.

3.   NOMINATION - FOR LIFE TIME ARREARS (LTA).                         CLICK FOR DETAILS
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RANK PAY CASE


INDIAN ARMED FORCES
(ARMED OR HARMED)

Update:IV CPC Rank Pay Contempt Petition Case as on 31 Mar 2014


The case came up for hearing today ie 31 Mar 2014 in the Court of Justice RM Lodha.  After hearing the Solicitor General, the Court exempted the Contemnors (Ex Def Secy and present CAG, CGDA since promoted to Def Fin, Ex Secy Def Fin, and ex Secy Expenditure since both retd) from personal appearance.

The Court directed the petitioners (RDOA) to file application for impleadment of present Def Secy and CGDA within two weeks.

      NOTE --  THIS PING PONG WILL CONTINUE 

 
Update:IV CPC Rank Pay Case Contempt Petition
 as on 10 Mar 14
              The IV CPC Rank Pay Contempt Petition came up for hearing on 10 March 14 in Court no 2 (Justice RM Lodha).  RDOA moved application for grant of one more week to file Rejoinder to the reply filed by UOI/MoD which the Court was pleased to grant.  None of the four Contemnors was present in the Court. Absented again. 
Next date of hearing has been scheduled for 31 Mar 2014. 


RANK PAY CASE - IN BRIEF

LATEST --   AS OF NOW THE ARREARS OF  RANK PAY PAID TO THE OFFICERS BY MINISTRY OF DEFENCE ARE NOT IN TUNE WITH THE JUDGEMENT OF THE SUPREME COURT , RDOA ACCORDINGLY FILED A CONTEMPT PETITION IN THE SC ON  31 JUL 13 WHICH CAME UP FOR HEARING ON 19 NOV 13 WHERE IN THE SC HAS  ISSUED CONTEMPT NOTICES BY NAME TO THE DEFENCE SECRETARY, CGDA AND DEFENCE FINANCE.
A COPY OF THE NOTICES HAS ALREADY BEEN CIRCULATED ON EMAILS.

THE HEARING OF THE CASE WILL BE ON 13TH AJN 2014

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VETERANS DRAG MOD TO SUPREME COURT OVER RANK PAY CASE
http://rdoaindia.blogspot.in/2013/08/veterans-drag-mod-to-supreme-courtover.html
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7th PAY COMMISSION

SEVENTH  PAY  COMMISSION

As per the latest news report the commission has still to be allotted office space.

Cadres are busy preparing their wish lists fot the Commission, Hope some one is doing it for the Veterans also.

GAZETTE NOTIFICATION




Minutes of 1st Meeting held with 7th Pay Commission by representatives of Associations – Minutes of Pay Commission Committee meeting held on 26.02.2014

Minutes of the 1st meeting of the Pay Commission Committee (PCC) held on 26.02.2014 - INDWF
Minutes of the 1st meeting of the Pay Commission Committee (PCC) held in the Conference Room with the representatives of the Federations and Associations at 11.00 hours on 26.02.2014.
List of those present in the meeting is annexed.
1. At the outset, Smt. Arti C.Srivastava Member – Secretary extended a warm welcome to all the invites. Member-Secretary further informed that a Pay Commission Cell (PCC) had been constituted under the chairmanship of Shri.Aidtya Mishra Sr.DDG/CP at OFB Hqrs to initiate deliberations and invite suggestions from all the

PENSION MAJORS AFT JUDGEMENT DT 9 OCT 2013

As per the judgment of ARMED FORCES TRIBUNAL, PRINCIPAL BENCH AT NEW DELHI in  RA 25/2013 with MA 234/2013  in OA 256/2011 delivered on 09 Oct 2013 all Majors who had completed 21 yrs service prior to 1996 are now entitled to Pension of Lt Col(TS).The judgment can be accessed on link http://www.aftdelhi.nic.in/assets/pending_cases/2013/RA/RA%2025%202013%20Major%20KG%20Thomas-09-10-2013.pdf

THE GOVT HAS GONE TO SUPREME COURT ON APPEAL. THEY CONSIDER THIS AS ONE OF THE  STEREO TYPE CASES


CLICK TO GO BACK

GOVT (MOD) LETTER ON TREATMENT OF STEREO TYPE CASES IN MOD - 

Ministry of Defence
Deptt. of Ex-Servicemen Welfare D (Pension/Legal)
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Subject: - Processing       of    stereotype court cases       for appeal - instructions to the Service Hqrs.

The Department has been processing hundreds of court cases of similar types tabulated below for appeal seeking advice of Law Officers through LA (Def.). The MoD has filed appeals in almost all types of cases as per advice earlier tendered by Law Officers through LA (Def.)

THEY DID THE CORPS PROUD

THEY DID THE CORPS PROUD

    In this section our aim is to mention our Signallers who have made us and the Corps proud by their acts of unmatched bravery and courage. This post includes the following articles:-

1.         The  article compiled by Lt Col HS Bhandari (Veteran) and  publishes in The SIGNALMAN Feb 2011 issue. 

2.      THE SAGA OF CAPT PK GHOSH, VrC.  By Maj Gen VK Singh.    for the liberation of Bangladesh..

3      NATHULA 1967 - THE REAL STORY – 2Lt NC GUPTA‘s FEARLESS ACTS OF BRAVERY - by Maj Gen VK Singh.  

The signal Family will welcome such articles from the Parivar Members, on extraordinary achievements in any field by our officers JCOs and men, for hosting here for posterity.


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RDOA - (THEY GOT YOU RANK PAY)

RETIRED DEFENCE OFFICER'S ASSOCIATION (RDOA) 
(THE BODY WHICH GOT YOU RANK PAY)
An Appeal  --  
                                          Don't we feel guilty within ourselves  by not being at least the members of this great organisation which has fought for us all in the Supreme Court of India against the Govt of India (WHICH IS NOT A JOKE) at their on cost and efforts, in getting the arrears of Rank Pay for the officers of Indian Armed Forces, without us having to move an eyebrow. 
        The RDOA is lead by our own Signals Family Member  Col BK Sharma, The RDOA team comprising volunteers from all arms, got us a huge sums of the Rank Pay Arrears after fighting hard in the Supreme Court for years  which entailed expenditure of lakhs of Rupees and selfless dedicated hard work. 
        43000 officers got benefited by their court win and as of date only a fraction i.e 2000 officers have contributed by means of their membership to the RDOA  ....................   
        Let us not feel guilty any more,  kindly listen to your inner voice and join the organisation with your contributions. Do fill up the application form as given below and post to them with a cheque (fig of an amount) as given there in.
       They still have to go a long way to get your correct and rightful arrears of Rank pay.
     Hence this humble appeal to all veterans from ALL ARMS to please join and help the Association is hereby made.  
      The Application form and other details please --    CLICK HERE   
 Please download THE APPLICATION FORM and do the needful TODAY if not already done.
                WE  OWE  MORAL OBLIGATION TO  RDOA WHO FOUGHT FOR US

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LATEST UPDATES FROM RDOA
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RANK PAY CASE - CONTEMPT SUIT IN SC
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MoD Files Appeal in SC against NANA disability pension case: Republic Day Bonanza

RDOA had taken up case with MoD for admissibility of disability pension in cases where disability is Niether Attributable Nor Aggravated (NANA) due to Military Service with 20% or more disability based on the judgment given by the Supreme Court. MoD has now filed appeal against the said judgment in the SC. Another legal battle in the offing for the veterans. RDOA will step in and fight for the veterans.    http://rdoaindia.blogspot.in/

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                                            A MARK OF HONOUR
Compliments to 
Major AK Dhanapalan & Col BK Sharma and his RDOA Team
It was 1987. General K. Sundarji was in Pune, briefing senior Southern Command officers on the Fourth Pay Commission, when a lowly captain asked an uncomfortable question. He wanted to know why his basic had actually gone down, after the rank pay was introduced. There was a buzz in the room. The chief told the captain to meet him separately, he would explain the issue. “I didn't seek private audience later. I was too junior,” chuckles Major A.K. Dhanapalan (retd). “I actually had no business